tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post7864001030376672915..comments2023-11-05T12:34:12.796+01:00Comments on Conflict and Compromise: Georgia's forgotten Ossetian exilesWim Roffelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05950733237377413606noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-16923851218810373462008-12-29T15:00:00.000+01:002008-12-29T15:00:00.000+01:00"Russian forces maruaded over much of Georgia"When..."Russian forces maruaded over much of Georgia"<BR/>When you start a war you should not complain about a bit of punishment when you loose.<BR/><BR/>"The case of Chechnya cannot be forgotten."<BR/>Chechnya was never independent.<BR/><BR/>"Nor can Georgia from 1918 to 1921"<BR/>That was just one of many opportunistic secessionistic republics. Not much different from <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic" REL="nofollow">Tuva</A> or Korca (1916-1920).<BR/><BR/>"If its territories of historic Samachablo and Abkhazia are taken by Russia, what is left for its existence? where should Georgia exist?"<BR/>Georgia has twice the size of the Netherlands with only a fraction of its population (16 vs 4 million). Don't tell me it is incapable of missing one sixth of that large territory!<BR/>And don't talk propaganda! These areas are not taken by Russia. They are primarily taken by the people who live there!.Wim Roffelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05950733237377413606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-51752263029629279902008-12-29T14:25:00.000+01:002008-12-29T14:25:00.000+01:00Georgia's struggle for its legal territories is th...Georgia's struggle for its legal territories is the struggle for its existance. If its territories of historic Samachablo and Abkhazia are taken by Russia, what is left for its existence? where should Georgia exist?Lelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829523249720397189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-28948579000865331662008-12-25T09:48:00.000+01:002008-12-25T09:48:00.000+01:00"Georgia doesn't have to struggle for its existenc..."Georgia doesn't have to struggle for its existence. That hasn't been threatened since it became independent."<BR/><BR/>Recently, it can't be forgotten, Russian forces maruaded over much of Georgia. Noises are being made in Russia also as to re-establishing Russia as an aggressive imperialist force and taking back more non-Russian territories that broke free from the empire. The case of Chechnya cannot be forgotten.<BR/><BR/>Nor can Georgia from 1918 to 1921. Georgia managed to free itself from the old Russian Empire, but when Lenin re estabished Moscow imperialism, he invaded Georgia and instituted a decades-long reign of terror.<BR/><BR/>All during this time, the aggression has been one-way. Never has Georgia threatened Russia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-18312794741309000102008-12-16T13:43:00.000+01:002008-12-16T13:43:00.000+01:00The difference between languages and dialects is a...The difference between languages and dialects is arbitrary. Laz and Mingrelian started to grow apart at the same time that French, Italian and Spanish started to grow apart. And they are just as mutually unintelligible.<BR/><BR/>It is my impression that the fierce Georgian nationalism is partly an effort to suppress the differences between the Georgians. If there are no more external enemies to fight Georgia would finally have to look at its own diversity and economic problems (corruption).<BR/><BR/>"Tskhinvali region or historic Samachablo is an inalienable part of the Georgian land. This is the absolute truth and this truth will see a day light one day.": I suppose that God gave you a certificate on the day of creation.<BR/>In the rest of the world such extreme claims to lands on which you aren't the majority and haven't been the majority for centuries are considered racist and unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>According to your logic the Celts in Britain (the Scotch and the Welsh) would be justified to throw out the Anglo-Saxons because they came later and "abused their hospitality".<BR/><BR/>The whole world is ethnically diverse: so Georgia's ethnical diversity has nothing to do with special Georgian hospitality.<BR/><BR/>Georgia doesn't have to struggle for its existence. That hasn't been threatened since it became independent. The only threat to its territorial integrity has been its own racism that has antagonized the Abkhazians and Ossetians and would have very probably resulted in their ethnic cleansing if Georgia had had the chance.Wim Roffelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05950733237377413606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-84989677521757359212008-12-15T13:30:00.000+01:002008-12-15T13:30:00.000+01:00Either the author does not know true history of Ge...Either the author does not know true history of Georgia and the Georgian language or he tries intentionally to mislead readers. The article contains factual errors. Svan and mengrelian regions are not separate nations but rather regions of Georgia like Imereti or Kakheti. These regions developed their own dialects of the Georgian language, which were formed in languages at some point of historical development. This is indisputable truth and every linguist knows that Svan and Mengrelian languages are variations of Georgian developed of the basis of dialects. This is easly proved linguistically. So Svans and Mengrelians are pure Georgians. As for Laz language this kind of language does not exist at all. Laz is a dialect of Mengrelian language. <BR/><BR/>If you look at the map of Georgia you, it will tell you about the natural border of the country: huge Caucasian mountains. Ossetians came to Tskhinvali region and settled down there enjoying Georgian hospitability for centuries. Now the Ossetians backed up by Russians, who have their imperialistic ambitions towards Georgia, betrayed the nation that gave shelter to their predecessors and dare to declare an independent state on the territory of another country. Shame on them! So called "South Ossetia" never existed on the earth: Tskhinvali region or historic Samachablo is an inalienable part of the Georgian land. This is the absolute truth and this truth will see a day light one day. Georgia is a tiny country and it cannot afford to give away its portions to those whoever decide to establish a new state on its territory. <BR/><BR/>It’s also strange to speak about the “Georgian nationalism”. The fact that so many nationalities have been living in Georgia proves the hospitality and friendliness of the Georgian people. Ask the Georgian Jews and they will tell you on the worm hospitality of the Georgian people that they share with anyone who has knot hostile attitude and ambitions to this country. Unfortunately, Georgia’s struggle for its existence and for its territorial integrity is interpreted as the “Georgian nationalism”.<BR/><BR/>God will not admit to tear and divide this land since the truth is on our side. God bless Georgia!Lelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829523249720397189noreply@blogger.com