tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post3514568106772603798..comments2023-11-05T12:34:12.796+01:00Comments on Conflict and Compromise: Corruption and the role of the state in KosovoWim Roffelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05950733237377413606noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-70478877295026117292008-08-11T17:31:00.000+02:002008-08-11T17:31:00.000+02:00"Hit send too quickly. The oppression you name exi..."Hit send too quickly. The oppression you name existed, but was part of a reaction against a colonial occupying power." <B> Sources please. </B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-27797003163483277272008-08-11T03:36:00.000+02:002008-08-11T03:36:00.000+02:00Hit send too quickly. The oppression you name exis...Hit send too quickly. The oppression you name existed, but was part of a reaction against a colonial occupying power.<BR/><BR/>Completely lacking from any of these accounts are instances of Kosovar or Albanian aggression against Serbia. It was always one way. You don't have Kosovo or Albanians invading or occupying any Serbian land.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-50547731804790020362008-08-11T03:32:00.000+02:002008-08-11T03:32:00.000+02:00"ALBANIANS OPPRESSING SERBS IN KOSOVO" An event th..."ALBANIANS OPPRESSING SERBS IN KOSOVO" <BR/><BR/>An event that took place after the Serbian invasion and colonization of Kosovo.realisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462255432481566931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-47612616246247084092008-08-11T02:10:00.000+02:002008-08-11T02:10:00.000+02:00"realist" - post the ENTIRE passage you quote from..."realist" - post the ENTIRE passage you quote from and you will see your position is defeated by your own source. Don't forget the part about "ALBANIANS OPPRESSING SERBS IN KOSOVO" quoted in the article that YOU LINK TO.<BR/><BR/>Just for fun, give me another source (a "simple" and "unbiased" one - in your words)because you defeated yourself with the link you provided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-11505949035752832962008-08-11T00:18:00.000+02:002008-08-11T00:18:00.000+02:00Look up any source ANY source, from the simplest e...Look up any source ANY source, from the simplest encyclopedia on, and you will find how Kosova was forcibly added to Serbia during the creation of Yugoslavia, and you will find accounts of Serbia's attempt to colonize this foreign land that had been annexed to it by making Serbs move to Kosovo and also by killing the indiginous people and diminishing their institutions<BR/><BR/>Look up any unbiased history. It's not worth it to me to provide dozens scores of links to someone who can't even look up the most basic encyclopedia. <BR/><BR/>But here is <A HREF="http://www.workmall.com/wfb2001/yugoslavia/yugoslavia_history_political_life_in_the_1920s.html" REL="nofollow">one</A>:<BR/><BR/>"in 1920 Belgrade began a drive to resettle Serbs in the region. Coercion, illegal expropriation of Albanian-owned land, and forced deportations marred this campaign. When Albanians attacked Serbian settlements and government institutions, the police seized Albanian property, imprisoned families, and destroyed homes. The government adopted a similar policy in Macedonia."<BR/><BR/>Just one of many accounts of the historic fact of Serbia conquering Kosovo, planting settlers there, and waging war against the indiginous people and culture. And some of the victims did fight back.<BR/><BR/>I did learn something. I did not know of Serbian imperialism/colonialism waged against Macedonia before.realisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462255432481566931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-87317478405282616442008-08-10T22:50:00.000+02:002008-08-10T22:50:00.000+02:00"Kosovo (more properly Kosova) was forcibly annexe..."Kosovo (more properly Kosova) was forcibly annexed to Serbia early in the 20th century, against the will of the Kosovars. This was a big mistake. In the 1920s, as in the 1990s, Serbia even began an effort to colonize Kosovo and exterminate the indiginous people."<BR/><BR/>That entire paragraph is factually false. If you think I'm wrong, give SOURCES PLEASE. Bedtime stories don't count.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-36569342916836243972008-08-10T12:25:00.000+02:002008-08-10T12:25:00.000+02:00Kosovo (more properly Kosova) was forcibly annexed...Kosovo (more properly Kosova) was forcibly annexed to Serbia early in the 20th century, against the will of the Kosovars. This was a big mistake. In the 1920s, as in the 1990s, Serbia even began an effort to colonize Kosovo and exterminate the indiginous people.<BR/><BR/>The "territorial sovereignty" you refer to is no more than the desire of an empire to hold and brutalize a separate nation against its will. Kosovo is to Serbia as India was to Britian in the 1800s: part of its "territory", but not by any legitimate means.<BR/><BR/>Kosovo really hasn't been part of Serbia since the 1990s.Since then there has been a trend to remove Kosovo from control of foreign occupation.<BR/><BR/>"Now there is de facto sanction of drug running, sex slavery, and all sorts of nefarious enterprises that will poison the rest of Europe."<BR/><BR/>Yes. But that is no reason to attach Kosovo to foreign country that has always been its enemy and has acted in its worst interest, such as Serbia. Serbia has always treated Kosovo as an enemy country to br brutalized, plundered, and raped. Or do you believe that Kosovo should be annexed to Serbia so that the Serbian army can rape thousands of Kosovo women again? Would that be suitable punishment for Kosovo having a poorly-run government?<BR/><BR/>The fact is that Kosovo is recognized for what it is: an independent nation from Serbia. It is recognized by most of the democracies of the world. The dictatorships, and imperial countries that exist by colonizing and conquering foreign nations (China, Russia, etc) oppose Kosovo independence: but that is because they prefer imperialism.<BR/><BR/>The Serbian claim over Kosova is against the will of its people, and is purely imperialist.realisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462255432481566931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-22219151803824141262008-08-03T19:43:00.000+02:002008-08-03T19:43:00.000+02:00"realist"That is a fallacious argument. The very ..."realist"<BR/><BR/>That is a fallacious argument. The very same could be said about taking away Kosovo from the Serbs violating their will and their territorial sovereignty. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, what is this talk of "annex?" As far as Serbia and the majority of the rest of the world is concerned, Kosovo is still a part of Serbia.<BR/><BR/>A "realist" would not have gotten involved in the whole affair. Now there is de facto sanction of drug running, sex slavery, and all sorts of nefarious enterprises that will poison the rest of Europe. But then again, maybe that was the plan from the beginning....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17149992.post-52968676776278664152008-08-03T16:32:00.000+02:002008-08-03T16:32:00.000+02:00It is clear that the government and governance of ...It is clear that the government and governance of Kosovo has major problems. But I hope that no one uses this as an argument to annex this nation to Serbia, against the will of the Kosovars.realisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462255432481566931noreply@blogger.com